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will be here. alisyn: go to the web site for the after the show show. we will see you tomorrow. brian: tell us about what you did in college. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute good morning bill:. we're going to star with the new developments surrounding the christmas day body bomber. authorities are focusing on al qaeda sales in yemen. al qaeda claiming that it supplied umar farouk abdulmutallab with the materials to try to kill nearly 300 people aboard the northwest flight at 82 detroit. they claim is the retaliation attack. we knew we were going to peel away the layers on this story. that is where we start. i am bill hemmer. >uma: i am in umar farouk abdulmutallab for megyn kelly
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farouk is in the michigan prison. he had explosives capable of blowing a hole in a plane inside his underwear. >> phil keating is live in michigan outside of detroit. we hear the suspect would to yemen at least twice before the planned attack. what was he doing? >> that is under serious investigation. but the suspicion is somewhat has happened since christmas day is that perhaps he was meeting with people that were giving him the corrections and possibly even giving them the highly explosive white powder faug. federal investigators have taken photographs of the actual underwear that abdulmutallab was wearing on board the airplane. it was a northwest airlines flight 253. there were about petn 80 grams
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about. the torso in the waistband but in what appears to be a big shift pocket right there in the crotch. the photographs also show a picture of the petn which some suggested not ignite and explode only due to the competence of the 23-year-old would-be terrorist who failed to ignite it properly. petn is a highly explosive powder, a popular with terrorists, also use of a failed shoe bomber in 2001. investigators later tested what petn could do to an empty plain. but look. the effect is dramatic. incidentally, that test is believed to have used less petn that was in the of their pants on christmas day. bill: is he being held in prison and how long will he stay there? >> he was moved here on sunday
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after being treated for two days at the university of michigan's burn center for second and third degree burns suffered on his body when he allegedly tried to like this and underneath his blanket in his seat on board that airplay. he has already been arraigned on two serious charges that carry it to 20 years in prison related to terrorism. his detention hearing is not scheduled until january 8. so he will definitely be here until then. then a judge will decide whether to set the bar and then possibly release this man on bail. but of course prosecutors will argue strongly that this man is clearly a flight risk, and if he was released on bail, you potentially could be deported, complicating the investigation and prosecution. bill: there is a strong arab community in that part of michigan. next time we talk, i will get information about that.
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uma: president obama taking a break from his christmas break to reassure the general public over airline safety. he ordered homeland security to review procedures followed what he called an attempted act of terrorism. >> on christmas day, northwest airlines flight 253 of away from the amsterdam, netherlands to detroit. they're playing in the final approach to the detroit metropolitan airport. a passenger allegedly tried to ignite an explosive device of his body, setting off fire. uma: he ordered the intelligence agencies to review how they keep the skies safe and keep tabs on terrorists. bill: there has been a significant string of recent terrorist incidents in the u.s., all taking place in the past year. back in june, a 23-year-old convert to islam out of tennessee charged with killing a u.s. soldier and injuring another one in arkansas.
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in august, a burglar in new york arrested did charged with conspiracy to commit murder oversee. september of this year, manila -- eleanor a man charged with it to big to murder federal officers or employers and trying to detonate weapons of mass destruction. also in dallas, the fbi arrested a man they say who tried to blow up a 60-story office tower. in september again, najibullah zazi and his father and arrested and charged with making false statements to federal investigators. that investigation linked the two men out of colorado to a new york city terror plot out of brooklyn. in october, a massachusetts man arrested and charged with conspiring with terrorists overseas including plans to help carry out attacks. in november, army major nadal hasan accused of walking into a fort hood military base in texas
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and opening fire. he is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder. that leads us to the christmas day attended plot to blow of the u.s. passenger plane heading to detroit out of amsterdam. it is of the we're tracking through our brave room. first -- brain room. when you consider this, it is quite alarming. uma: in this fascinating, and the revelations coming out. ever since the failed plane attack on christmas day, it has been confusion at airports. some flights not allowing it to the wrong your lap. even know getting up and using the restroom in the last hour of the flight. adding to the confusion, we get word that it will be up to individual pilots to decide idea-flight restrictions. all this uncertainty could be a good thing. we have a member of the heritage foundation, an expert on counter-terrorism and homeland security.
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welcome. it seems that the security of grades could change hour by hour, day by day, and differed on individual flights depending on the pilots. is this a reality passengers will have to contend with for some time, and why is it a good thing? >> i am sure it is frustrating to the average passenger because they do not know what they're going to face. but they have to think like a terrorist. terrorists love predictability. they practice these things. did the rehearsals and observation. they want to know exactly what they're going to face because they may not get another shot. security is always major route which is frustrating for them. first in all likelihood, because this attack failed, of the other guys were out there they have probably been deterred. i think some of this makes a lot of sense right now. an easy way to keep the terrorist on their toes. uma: it is a great deal of frustration for passengers out
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there, not knowing what to suspect in knowing that there may be some real challenges ahead. >> thwe can really mess with passengers. you cannot have a policy where some airlines since a two carry are in some can say one -- stuff like that is a bad idea. that will just clogging the airports. that is not good for security. when the lines are really long and clogged up, it is harder to focus on your job. so we need to stay consistent in some areas and in how we treat airline passengers. but not having these on your lap and that kind of vague, and in the short term, that is probably a good precaution. people will have to live with it. they might be a convenience did not like it, but it is better than the dead. uma: is this going on for international and domestic flights? >> absolutely.
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we ought to pay just as much attention to domestic flights as we do international flights. all the 9/11 flights started here from the united states. is it happened anywhere. uma: a lot of the security changes are happening on the flights that are from overseas bound for the united states. they want to prevent people from cracky even the plane's landing. >> absolutely. other countries should do similar types of things to switch things up. right now, all canada works to come back to the west. they want to kill americans here again. even if you remember the liquid bomb plot was foiled by a blood did a couple years ago, the idea was to get the planes that were coming to america. this is the prime target, but we have seen them go up to other countries. globally, people need to be
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concerned about this problem. uma: can you elaborate more about how these people go about copying and finding out what is going on aboard flights? do they actually rehearsed the procedures they want to employ on these flights by the predictability, as you point out? >> absolutely. and they do test runs. the 2000 run shoe bomber was a test run in many ways. this man may have been a test run. he may have been an expandable assets. they might have wanted to see what would happen. they're always doing rehearsals and always observing. a couple weeks ago there was a news story that a t securesa the hair vote was posted guards the web. they love to find the kind of stuff. -- there was a story that a tsa in the book was posted art the web. they want to get it right the
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first time. they want predictability in the security they will face. uma: it seems we have to always stay one step ahead of them. it is not always an easy job. thank you so much. bill: it only takes one of them to get through. every time we have these experts are the air, they say the same thing. it is so true. we have to be so good and a step ahead of all of them. in a moment, we're going to talk about this radical imam born in the usa, new mexico, in fact, and now living in yemen. he traded e-mails with the man who shot up four hits in texas. there is a possible connection between this cleric and the attending -- attended bombing of the airplane on christmas day. and actor charlie sheen is facing serious criminal charges after his wife accused him of attacking her with a knife in hand. that also on christmas day. the 911 call and what is next
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for the actor in their midst. >> my husband has me with a knife --
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uma: a rare meeting going on between two groups of brave been that women in uniform. for some on the battlefield, others in the u.s. forces in the rucker could get a chance to talk to two astronauts aboard the international space station. first it features the space commander and flight engineer. service member is getting a chance to talk to the astronauts about life on the station as well as their military careers. bill: cool stuff.
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if you're watching "america's newsroom" of this tight yesterday, you saw catherine herridge break his views of the possible connection between the suspect from christmas day at al-awlaki. he is a there could born in the mexico. the christmas day body bomber followed awlaki's blog ed website, a colleague himself a big fan. we have a terrorism analyst at investigator producer of the christian broadcasting network. good morning to you. do we know of this awlaki is alive in yemen? >> from all indications right now, he is alive. u.s. officials initially thought he was killed in that airstrike against al qaeda operatives on december 22 cory and yemen. interestingly enough, what precipitated that air strike, a source close to u.s. military intelligence tells me that last week before that airstrike two jihadist were arrested across the street from the u.s. embassy
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in yemen. moat -- both men had explosives. that gives you the idea of the threat environment in a human right now. bill: was awlaki one of these two men? >> no, he was not. he is an inspirational figure for al-qaeda. he is not the kind of guy you will see strap a bomb to himself, get on this street, and carry out operations. he has become one of the most influential jihadist clerics in the world. he is an al qaeda recruiter. he is a guide that young muslims in europe and the u.s. look to for inspiration. the reason, he was born in america. he was born in new mexico. he moved to yemen and came back into the college in colorado. he is very westernized. he is fluent in english of those american culture. he is eloquent and charismatic. his raids against the west and against jews, in favor of jihad,
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are all over the internet. it is a big problem right now. bill: he is becoming a bit of a lighthouse in the harbor. can we report whether or not, or do your sources tell you whether or not we're trying to take about? >> absolutely. i did there is absolutely an effort to try to take him out, especially after the fort hood shooting. nadal hasan was in contact with awlaki. he was kind of a pen pal. nadal hasan look to al-awlaki for inspiration and spiritual guidance. it is a shame because the fort hood shooting should have never happened. we knew about nadal hasan's links to awlaki. we do about his correspondence with this menu is an al qaeda recruiter at was a mentor to two of the bad 11 hijackers. and this carries they come up for a tie, awlaki was en imam at the falls church mosque justice and washington, d.c., a 10
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minutes from the white house. bill: those are great. . we have established to use american born and speaks english. wire people drawn to this guy? >> very charismatic. the very eloquent. end of this man has close ties to al qaeda's hierarchy. he is an inside kind of guy. he has collects -- connections. he mentored two of the 9/11 hijackers. he is kind of the gateway to al qaeda's hierarchy. he is in the yemen which is an al qaeda hotbed right now. he is looked at as well connected, and he speaks fluent english. he knows the ways of the west. it is easy for young jihadist to connect to him for that reason. bill: he is using a technology to preach his message wherever he wants. quickly, joe lieberman and made a big.
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as of sunday morning. he contends that iraq was the last war. of guinness then is the current war. the next war is in yemen. what is happening in that country where these radicals operate the way they do? >> u.s. officials a human could be the next afghanistan. it is very impoverished. it has rugged and mountainous terrain, a lot of hiding places. and most importantly, a very weak central government. also a very young population. i think it is something like half of the population that is under the age of 15. a very dangerous place right now along with somalia and those tribal regions of pakistan. bill: thank you for your help today. uma: some washington lawmakers are pushing hard for a new plan to deal with out of control federal budgets. wasn't that could produce real spending cuts, or it might lead to a big round of tax hikes. stuart varney will be joining us with the whole story in three minutes.
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bill: more from tehran where the iranian president is calling anti-government protests by of that country "and nauseating masquerade as backed by the u.s. and its allies in britain." this is as tens of u.s. and government supporters are calling for the punishment of opposition leaders and calling them for being irresponsible for the disputed presidential election in june. it is a far cry from the buying clashes in recent days. we have seen on line in by way of the video camera. at least 18 opposition figures have been arrested since sunday. one of those killed was the nephew of the opposition leader
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mir hussein mousavi. more on that as the good developments from the street of iran. uma: there are new developments concerning charlie sheen. police releasing in 911 call placed by the wife of the 44- year-old actor. all of this happening on christmas day. she claims her husband in her down, put a knife to worth road, and then threatened to kill her. it was because she told him she wanted a divorce. listen --
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uma: there is disturbing. police arrested the actor on suspicion of second-degree assault. he was released and $8,700 bond. charlie sheen denies the knife allegation. bill: that is a great christmas day. you could say she paused right there at the end before she gave him up. she later came back and tried to
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recant her story. uma: it was some sort of domestic dispute, and she was playing it down. who knows what the real story is. bill: we will see where the criminal charges go. there is a common pain reliever that can cure that headache or hanover, but can it mend your broken heart? oh, yeah --in only three minutes. ♪
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uma: faced with a soaring deficit, washington is floating the idea of a bipartisan commission to oversee spending. supporters on both sides of the aisle are saying that the special panel will bring much- needed scrutiny to the nation's balance sheet. critics say democrats just want a political cover for new tax hikes. stuart varney joins us from the fox business network. of course they have been spending billions of dollars and now they want to rein it in just in time for the political election season. >> yes. this idea of a bipartisan commission would give the
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democrats some political cover from the republicans to raise taxes. a little history for a moment. 1983, a bipartisan commission to fix social security resulted in higher payroll taxes to 1990, a bipartisan commission to fix the deficit. that resulted in higher taxes. fast forward to now and the "wall street journal" suggest that if we get this bipartisan commission, taxes will go up. it will be covering the democrats to raise federal income taxes, maybe a new energy tax, and maybe even a value- added tax. the government finances out of control. we are borrowing an enormous amount of money and interest rates are rising. the situation is almost chaotic at the moment. south uma: this year's deficit is significant because it is having a tremendous impact in ways we have not counted on
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before. >> yes, the impact is we're in uncharted territory for the size of the deficit and the amount of money with therefore have to borrow constantly. yesterday i reported this week the treasury will borrow $118 billion. that is in a four-day week. an average of almost $30 billion a day. already, the people with money who are supposed to party than money to uncle sam will say hold on because we're not sure you can pay us back. we want a higher rate of interest. sure enough, interest rates are rising. uma: do you think this will fly with the public, knowing that there is this panel other to see what can be done to rein in the deficit and on the flip side, it is though that taxes will be raised down the road? >> odinga note this will fly with the general public or voters. but it will not fly with the money markets. they are anxious. the idea of a commission that would make a difference to the deficit is laughable on the bond
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market. uma: what can we expect from this commission from your perspective? do you think it will go in right away with the idea of raising taxes from the starting gate when they come back from recess? >> if there is such a commission, and the idea is it would be part of raising the national debt ceiling again in february of this coming year, and if we got the kind of commission, it would go to work fairly quickly. it would be a quid pro quo deal. you'd have maybe some kind of means testing of entitlement programs so middle and upper- income people did not get all the benefits that they paid for. the quid pro quo would be higher taxes. federal income taxes, energy tax, a value-added tax. it could start happening in very quickly if it is approved and if it flies in congress. uma: a lot to think about and a lot to look forward to in the new year. thank you. coming up, we will talk to the minnesota governor. he has always -- he is often
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talked about as a republican presidential contender. he will talk about his plan for the exploding deficit. bill: he might have a better chance locally. we will talk to him about that. in the meantime, are you stuck in traffic? the feds are trying to help drivers deal with traffic jams. states are being required to give motorists more real time morning is about congested. lovely. this as states allowed your expanded systems with the next four years. federal rules may take effect as early as february and will give states two years to make information available online or by telephone for interstate travel in four years for major roads in cities. you can do it right now. a lot of good websites where you can find out how traffic is. but the problem is you have to be at home to figure it out. if you do buy your car, not so safe. uma: is surprising ordeal for nevada couple driving through
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oregon. they got stuck in the high desert after being led astray by their vehicle's gps unit. they were heading home on christmas day. they were routed to a remote forest service road where they ended up getting stuck in the snow for nearly three days. there were later rescued after the gps-equipped cell phones and a weak signal to police. in the next hour, we will get out to know whether or not you should trust to gps. it is a problem a lot of people are having these days. bill: it cannot trust the gps, what do you have? central to this debate over health-care reform is a burden the quality of care without blowing a hole in the deficit. some answers lie in remote corners in northwestern connecticut. there, a small-town doctor makes house calls, saying it is the best way to serve his patients. one-on-one, hand to hand. rick leventhal found the story. he is in connecticut.
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good morning. >> good morning. it is 14 degrees, by the way. bill: nice. hope you packed your scarf and gloves. tell me about this doctor. >> well, he said that he had a private practice and a couple thousand patients, but because all the paperwork he was being buried in from insurance companies -- dick of cutting his fee for patients, so he finally decided to close the office instead visiting patients in their homes. it has worked out pretty well for him so far. here's what he told me. >> based on decreasing reimbursement, we were forced to try to move more patients through the office. and then here comes your 10- minute, 15-minute office visit. after a while i cannot do that. >> he only takes cash or checks. he does not take insurance, but people can get reimbursed from
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their insurance companies. bill: one thing we hear from doctors is once the relationship stops between hand- to-hand contact, one-on-one, when doctors stop spending so much time with patients, that is when the health care really relax. he seems like he has figured it out so long as you have the money to pay him. >> you can get reimbursed, but some people pay him out of their own part it -- their own pocket because they say it is better than waiting for an hour or more in the waiting room and then you get five or 10 minutes with the doctor. this way they did the doctor committed to their own home. they do not have to deal with the other six people. they did that one-on-one care. he says he's been up to two hours at times with a single patient. bill: that is the only time you can learn a patient history, and you can treat them better. that is a fact. get inside. see you. uma: stand up and take notice of this.
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a new study about a product that is probably in your medicine cabinet right now. it is the active ingredient in many over-the-counter pain killers. researchers are saying that acetaminophen not only here is physical pain like headaches, but it can also ease a broken heart. we're not kidding. it is true. we have a doctor who is a clinical psychologist with us. this study is out for us to think about and ponder, but i have to wonder, how does this work? >> it is so interesting. it was very interesting, and i was skeptical when i first heard this story. but it was a study conducted in kentucky at the university of kentucky. what they found -- the two studies. one was looking at these self recording of hurt feelings. the other was looking at the mri images of the brain in the pain centers of the brain.
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there are two parts to this story basically. what happens is as these patients were taking acetaminophen, they found that over time those patients reported less hurt feelings, and in the mri images of the other patients in the study, what they found was that the pain centers of the patients that were taking acetaminophen did not live up in the same way as the pain centers of the individuals that were not taking acetaminophen. so there is a neural overlap between the pain center and how we experienced emotional pain. uma: are people being advised now they want to ease a broken heart or social rejection that they cannot take these over-the- counter medications? >> no, what i think this is -- it is interesting.
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it was a small sample size. there should be some further investigation. but it is very interesting and actually makes sense with the but the neural pathways in our brain and physical pain and emotional rejection. i know when i feel -- shouldn't, there is a physical experience to that. your heart can ache a little. you can lose your breath a little. it does have a physical component. uma: it is about the mind-body connection. what happens to the might also affects the body. so you're saying we're actually finding evidence of this in ways we may not have counted on before. >> yeah, and i think it is not about taking this so you do not feel hurt or rejected. it is more to further understand, like what you are saying, how we experience a motion and the brain centers for pain.
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uma: was surprised to the most about this study? >> i think was surprised me the most was the mri images. they've varig that if they were hearing -- they found that if they were playing the game and there were getting rejected, the actual areas of the parade or a lot of of showing activity in people who were not on acetaminophen. so the people playing the game and getting -- did were not -- the pain centers were not getting activated aryan the brain. that is very interesting to me. uma: could this be extended to other painkillers as well? >> i am not sure of that. to me, these are very preliminary. they just really need to be investigated further. uma: how do you think it will help ultimately when we try to attract people's moods in their response to pain? >> i am not sure.
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one would be interesting is to understand this in a larger study and see if it really is what is happening. like how much is the self reporting in getting the individual's own experience in their own that make up, you know, people considered sensitive or non-sensitive. i am not really sure. it will be very interesting what the doctor is going to do further with this information. uma: it will be very interesting. i really thank you for expanding on this. i am sure we will be hearing more about this. >> thank you. bill: you can put me in the skeptical colorado on a bed. i have taken acetaminophen -- you can put me in the skeptical category on that. talk about courage in the face of tragedy. a couple of ruthless thugs gunning down a salvation army worker in front of his children
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uma: a homeless man in maryland charged today with stealing a plane. the man seen in this picture got inside the airplane hangar at frederick municipal airport. they say he tried to fly off in a single engine aircraft but never made it off the ground. he ended up driving the play that the runway before crashing it off the pavement.
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he is charged with theft, burglary, and trespassing. he barely lives in the woods and thereby and became familiar with the airport. he is being held on $2,000 bail. bill: so i homeless man steals a plane -- you wonder where he learned how to fly, right? uma: they say he was familiar with planes or had some knowledge about them. flying it is a whole nother story. bill: in little rock, they're looking for two men. six days later and still no arrests on this continuing story. police saying that they have raised $10,000 for a reward of information that leads to the arrest and conviction of the thugs who gunned down a salvation army worker and christmas eve. major philip wise was killed in front of is three young children. his wife is also a salvation army major and vows to carry on his work.
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we have a member of the little rock police department. philip wise work for the salvation army for 16 years. he appears to have given the community an awful lot. tell me about him. >> he certainly did. he and his wife for both of a trickle part of our community, serving areas of the community that need the most help, some of those less fortunate. that is what struck the heart of our community. this man has given so much to this neighborhood, and to lose his life are in such a way -- bill: why would somebody try and kill them? >> we believe the motive is attended robbery. bill: did they get money? >> no. bill: no money was exchange? >> we do not believe so. bill: did he know the attackers? >> not that we are aware of. bill: his wife led a service on sunday, i believe. where is she getting her
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strength? >> she is a very strong person. her strength is amazing. i was in the salvation army and she was are comforting others from the community that were distraught over this loss. she is just an amazing lady. bill: and the three children witnessed the shooting, and that is absolutely tragic. ages four, six, and eight. how much of the been able to tell you? >> well, we certainly interviewed them. i am not prepared to talk about what they may or may not have told us because it is part of the investigation. but it was a traumatic even for those kids. it is beyond belief this summer could take a man's life in front of his children. bill: is your best clue there from a local housing community? >> detectives have worked since new year's eve -- christmas eve on this. they continue to gather information.
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that is all i can release at this time, but they have been working diligently on this case. bill: the number is on the screen for any leads there in north little rock. what is that neighborhood loo ike? >> it is an old neighborhood in the city. as with most old neighborhoods, it is a mix of the people who have owned their homes and lived in the area for a long time and a lot of rental properties. there is some government housing in the area. but really, the area has started to turn around in recent years. bill: is it a rough stretch of terror? >> well, it is an area where we have probably more reported crimes than most areas in town. but there have been people in the community that have become active. it is turned around. we see an improvement there over the past few years.
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bill: go get those responsible and come back and talk about it, ok? my best to the family, the wife, and their children. uma: the attended a christmas day terror attack raising a new debate over security. coming up, we will look at the full body scanning system. some say could have prevented the scare in the sky. one congressman as opposed to them. we will talk to him straight ahead. . business on this spreadsheet... . .
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bill: we are counting down to the biggest new year's eve party on the east coast, time square. and we are hosting our all american new year. preparation to get ready for a million with bomb-sniffing
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dogs. here's that guy now. give a listen. >> i think it's our job as citizens to report anything that we see wrong and hopefully the cops can take care of it for us. >> i've been pretty scared since 9/11. bill: they should leave backpacks and alcohol at home. both will be confiscated at the gate there. be sure to check out our new year's eve special with me and megyn kelly. you can text your greeting at 36288. this country, around the world, great stuff lined up for the all-american new year when the ball drops on thursday. uma: are you ready for all the fun and cold weather? bill: i am not sure about the cold and rain and snow. if you keep talking about it maybe we'll get it. it's great fun every year. it's a great way to start anew.
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and we shall begin again in 2010. how about that? thursday night we start at 11:00 right after glen beck special too. uma: absolutely. now to a growing trend in health care. urgent care clinics, many are turning to them because many can't find a primary care physician or can't afford a trip to a regular doctor. aleashia -- alicia is here with more. why would someone skip one or not even see a physician? >> right. good morning, uma. time and money, really. patients say they'd just rather save both by going to an urgent care clinic and more and more people are doing that. and part of the reason is you go to an urgent care clinic for a cold on average you are going to pay $100 to $150. as opposed going to the e.r.
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costs about $600 to $800 per visit. we talked to katie and took her son in for cold symptoms and they were here in alabama and didn't want to waste time in the e.r. but they use urgent care back home too. >> our primary care is booked solid all the time. so usually when something comes up it's we need to be diagnosed right away. so 100% of the time i actually we go to a walk-in clinic like this because we can be seen and be on our way. >> urgent and retail clinics also have extended hours and opened on weekends. and the people we talked to said it's simply more convenient and they'd rather go that way. uma. uma: and really quickly, alicia, what are the kind of care they are getting? is there danger in it? >> the american academy care is
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fractured care meaning the doctor or nurse because sometimes you don't see a doctor is treating someone at the urgent care clinic and isn't talking to the regular family physician. and prescribing medication that could be conflicting with the medication that the person is already on and no one is really talking to each other. this can cause some problems and that's their concern. uma: all right, alicia, thank you. bill: there is a piece of security equipment that could have stopped the would-be plane bomber before he left the terminal. back in nigeria or amsterdam but congress said no to this technology last spring. will they change their tune? answers from a congressman who says not so fast.
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uma: hello, everyone. new questions about new technology and the threat of terror attacks on airplanes. we are learning that there are 17 full-body scanners at the
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airport in amsterdam. not one of them at a u.s. airline terminal. sky port airport has been testing the new technology for more than two years. essentially full-length human x-ray that detects foreign objects on the body. but the nigerian man accused of boarding a northwest airlines flight with explosives strapped to his leg never came near one. the u.s. doesn't allow use of the machines. but t.s.a. officials say that's absolutely not true. welcome to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm uma pemmarju in for megyn kelly. bill: nice to see you, uma. good morning. this is a debate that will play out for many months to come. i'm bill hemmer. first, i want to get to washington and new details coming in on the terror suspect. we are waiting now in a moment we'll talk to catherine herridge. she's been working her sources. but want to start this hour with kelly wright live in d.c.
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>> let me pick on from where catherine left off and she'll follow up new details that she's been working on. al qaeda and the arabian peninsula. this will be prominent. that's a group from yemen claiming responsibility for the attempted terror attack. president obama says the united states will not rest at all for those responsible for that terror attempt are found. >> it's absolutely critical that we learn from incident and take the necessary measures to prevent future acts of terrorism. >> now, stopping any future act of terrorism, of course, require a great amount of work from the two federal agencies charged with keeping potential terrorists off the airlines in the first place, the transportation security administration and the customs and border protection agencies, but they are without their top leaders. it took eight months for the obama administration to nominate new leaders of the agencies, and the senate dealing with health care reform and other issues has yet to
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confirm the nominees that the president has put before them. irmeantime, they say that umar farouk abdul mutallab received help from al qaeda. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula claiming that abdul mutallab is one of their own. and he was vetted for the machine in yemen and that it is likely they provided the materials sown into his underwear. sources also confirmed to fox that abdul mutallab went to yemen late last year or early this year. he trained there for several weeks or months but it is not clear how or when the 23-year-old son of a successful and wealthy banker became radicalized. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute >> i'd like to say he was radicalized before he went to yemen. there is a network that radicalize these people before going to yemen, wanted to connect to the mothership.
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>> and we have no way of identifying the kind of ideology someone aboard a plane has. he does say he believes that we should continue to identify radical muslim as jihadists. there are also reports out there that abdul mutallab had a facebook page on which he stated he was lonely, questioning his faith and even planned to go to stanford. bill: wow. that's interesting. just the beginning of the iceberg here the information we are going to take from that. thank you. uma: one security issue getting a look at in washington. they are lacking leadership at two critical security agencies, the transportation security agency still without an official director. same goes for the customs and border protection agency. both are part of homeland security. both responsible for keeping terrorists off american air carriers after taking the oath of office, president obama waited about eight months before nominating anyone for those positions. bogged down with the health care debate, congress has yet
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to even set a date for debating the customs nomination. and senate republicans were holding up the t.s.a. nomination over concerns that he may let t.s.a. screeners join a union. critics are saying a year is simply too long to lack permanent leadership at the two agencies. bill: we know this, uma, the white house now is taking a lot of hard questions in the last few days over how a nigerian man on a terror watch list was able to hold a valid visa and board a flight in detroit. and we are awaiting three congressional hearings that will begin on flight 253. one with the house homeland security committee. another with the senate homeland security committee. and a 1/3 with the senate, commerce, science and transportation committee, all set to kick off in january. steven hayes, senior writer for "the weekly standard," and former congressman from texas, gentlemen, good morning to both of you and i appreciate your time. steven, this is what the white house is going to say and democrats are going to say, don't play politics with this.
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it's a dangerous tactic. is some of this happening now? >> yeah. but i'd say that the politics started back on the campaign for president in 2008. look, a lot of things that the president has done since he's become president over this first year is to downplay the threats of terrorism. i think that's clear both in his language, by not using words or phrases like war on terror. as janet napolitano said, talking about man-caused disaster. and it's clear in his actions. he wants to clear guantanamo bay. he wants to do is expeditiously. he's sending back to yemen where al qaeda in the ayou rainian peninsula is -- al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is headquartered. now in charge of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. to be clear, the bush administration released the two people who were there leaving this -- leading this -- bill: that was in 2007 when they went back to yemen? >> exactly. exactly.
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bill: i want to get martin frost on this. what steven hayes is laying out to us is the whole different approach that the republicans believe is taking on terrorism and that is approaching from a law enforcement aspect as opposed to an offensive aggressive posture where you go after the bad guys and take them out before they have a chance, martin frost. >> look. i think it is a mistake to play politics with this. the system needs to be fixed. the system doesn't work. there were problems in the bush administration. there are problems in this administration. and they better get it right. i got a four million-mile card. i fly a lot. i recently took a flight from africa, from kenya through amsterdam to the united states. and i can tell you that there's not a lot of screening done outside the united states. we better get this fixed. bill: well. it's broken, clearly. are we fooling ourselves, by the way, steven, to think we can guard ourselves and that we're going to sit back and trust the government to protect ourselves getting onboard an airplane? >> we have to trust the
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government to do the kinds of things to take a defensive posture, to do the kinds of things that will keep terrorists like this from boarding planes. on the other hand, i think it's important that we have an aggressive posture, a forward looking posture and a forward-liening posture to say we will get -- forward-leaning posture to say we will get terrorists. bill: do you believe that the administration looks at terrorism in a different way, they look at it as a police policy? >> yeah. i don't think there's any question about that. one of the tipoffs was in the president's statement yesterday where he talked about -- he was describing this whole new approach, these reviews that will come as a result of this christmas day attack. and he used the word allegedly to describe the activities of this terrorist. now, there's nothing allegeded about it. there were witnesses who saw it. we recovered the device. we've gotten this underwear bomb that he's wearing. there's nothing alleged about it. the only reason you would wear it is worried about prosecuting him. the only reason you use that is if you have white house counsel
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office advising you that -- making the claim that he did what he did was threaten prosecution. bill: come on, steve. go ahead. then i go to my point. >> let's get the system fixed. that's the important thing here. all of us fly a lot. this guy should have been on a no-fly list. congress has every right to ask tough questions about why he wasn't on a no-fly list and why federal agencies aren't talking to each other. but let's not try and score political partisan points on this. bill: yesterday when the president referred to terrorism in a statement from hawaii he did not call this guy a muslim. why does that not matter, martin frost, should he? >> i am not going to pick apart the president's statement. it's up to the administration to fix it and i hope they will and i trust they will. bill: stephen hayes, do we have confidence the system will be fixed? >> i don't think we've gotten any indication that the policy will be fixed.
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this is about making a fact-based argument. the administration has repeatedly and purposely downplayed the threat of terrorism. there's just a difference of opinion. republicans by and large have taken the threat more seriously and have said, frankly, that we need to err if we're going to err is err on the side of being aggressive. the administration has taken the opposite view. dianne feinstein was quoted in "the washington post" saying we need to err on the side of precaution. >> there's no question we need to be aggressive. look, mistakes were made during the bush administration. a mistake was made during this administration. once and for all, why don't we put politics aside and agree we need to make sure terrorists can't get onboard? bill: do you this this administration has been aggressive enough? >> i think they've made mistakes and by god better make fixes.
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bill: that's going to draw a lot of headlines. does that throw off the agenda of the white house? >> no. they can walk and chew gum at the same time. bill: well, stephen, does it? >> yeah, i think they have a tough time doing what the president wants to do on guantanamo bay which is repatiate a lot of the -- repatriate a lot of the population there back to yemen at a time when yemen is really becoming the source of so much of our problems. bill: that could effect policy indeed. stephen hayes, thank you. i'm out of time. martin frost, thank you. gentlemen, happy new year. uma. uma: technology exists that could stop terrorists from smuggling bombs or other hazardous materials onto jets but one congressman is against to using it. he'll tell us why next. carol, when you replaced casual friday with nordic tuesday,
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bill: getting word out of north korea. the reclusive regime saying they are holding an unidentified american citizen and the family of this man, robert parks, say this is good
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news. park is a christian missionary and activist. he crossed into north korea on the chinese border on christmas to protest against prison camps. park's uncle says acknowledging attention and not planning on secretly executing the 28-year-old. that's why the family says it's good news. so that word just getting to us here on "america's newsroom." uma: security experts are saying that a full-body imaging machine could have prevented the attempted terrorist attack on christmas day. the devices can appear through clothing so airline passengers cannot hide objects like plastics or powders that could be used to make a bomb by strapping them onto their bodies. critics are saying the imagers invade privacy. joining us is jacen chaffetz from utah. -- jason chaffetz from utah. he's part of the government reform committee. thank you for being here, congressman.
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>> thanks for having me. uma: some members of congress are saying it's time to sacrifice some privacy to ensure better safety standards and make it mandatory to use full-body imaging machines. you pushed legislation to ban image screeners. in light of this recent terror attempt are you ready to drop your opposition to using these machines in the u.s.? >> well, i appreciate being on but let me be clarify. i didn't push through legislation to ban the use of the machine. what it said is you shouldn't use it as primary mandatory screening but use it for secondary screening. and in this particular case, this is the poster child of the guy who should have gone through this machine. if not once, twice. they had machines both in nigeria and amsterdam. i have serious questions why they didn't use the machines. they have the machines. if does work. what homeland security should be doing is pushing that list, that 550,000 people on the watch list. and who is watching the people on the watch list? but the guys on the watch list is originating out of nigeria.
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he paid cash. the technology is there. it should be used everywhere. uma: you say used as a secondary source. >> yeah. i fly every three or four days. i want the airplanes to be as safe and secure as possible. i think the question that our nation is going to have to look at, how do we balance our civil liberties and right to privacy at the same time secure airplanes? there's technology out in that's more effective and less invasive. that's what we need to get to. the technology is rapidly developing. uma: i know you do believe there are other technologies out there that could be more effective than these screerns. such as? >> good old-fashioned bomb sniffing dogs. the puffer machines that were deployed and pulled back a little bit. you have heat sensing type of
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technology out there that can go and look at a body and be able to understand if there's something there that's not emitting heat the way your body would. uma: if this was a powder that was not actually, you know, detonated at this point, how could that be effective when you're using a heat sensor? how could that detect powder? >> it looks at the heat coming from your body. if you don't have heat or it's blocked by something then that would give you an indication there should be more rigorous secondary screening. even if you were to take the whole body imaging and have the technology that they tell me that's coming with software that will create an algorithm that says there is an anomaly there, it's a difficult balance but, of course, we need to make sure -- uma: given the fact that we're living in this post-9/11 era and there are new realities setting in with the terrorists coming up with other ways to
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try to penetrate our security measures, do you think it's going to come to a time where we're going to have to sacrifice some of the privacy that we've enjoyed in order to -- for us to be safer as citizens and passengers aboard planes? >> well, i think we've already done that to some degree but it's sad. i think everybody who wants to go on those airplanes wants them to be safe and secure as possible. the technology is rapidly developing. i just want to make sure we have a balance and don't give up every bit of privacy that we have. and i think we can do that. we can certainly achieve those goals. uma: do you think there will be efforts in congress to try and push forward the fact that they want to be able to use these machines if needed? i mean, the fact is we don't have them in place. >> we should. the technology's good, it works, but the bill that i offered, the amendment says is absolutely. use it as secondary screening.
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and when you have somebody's highlighted, all of the risk factors that this guy, he should have gone through this machine multiple times. there are multiple reasons why security officials should have highlighted him and put him through the most rigorous secondary screening including the full-body imaging. it was at the airport. uma: apparently from our source it was not used for flights bound for the united states. >> yes, that's a problem. uma: when you take a look at what's at play at this moment, you say that from your perspective then it's better to focus on efforts to try to focus on these people before they get onboard the plane? >> look, we need to go after the terrorists around the globe. we cannot just be a reactionary body anytime someone comes up with a crazy way to blow people up. we need to go after the terrorists and use all the technology that we possibly can to get at those people. the questions we have for
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homeland security is, what's happening, for instance, with the 550,000 people on the watch list? who's watching those people? why aren't those people -- uma: those are questions, of course, being addressed right now. there's no question about it. >> we can't be so politically correct. we have to go after these terrorists. uma: all right, congressman, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. thank you. bill: during the campaign, president obama, then senator obama, pledged to get rid of wasteful spending, get rid of earmarks, remember? how does that square with the spending that is measured in trillions of dollars? stu varney ondeck. xxxxxxx
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bill: now, to your money. if there is a prominent democratic colleague calling president obama out. with russ fine gold voting no
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on a trillion dollar spending bill saying it's chock full of earmarks. and the obama campaign pledged -- >> we need to eliminate a whole host of programs that don't work. i want to go line by line, programs that don't work we should cut. programs we need we should make them better. bill: stu, good morning. he's with us every day at 1:00 in the afternoon. line by line. >> not quite. bill: what happened to that, my friend? >> i think that's gone by the wayside a long time ago. if you look at these massive bills, you can call it sausage making, getting the job done, but the flow of money backwards and forwards is precisely the same. it's more intense. i want to tell you the $626 billion defense appropriations bill, there are 1,000, almost
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1,000 earmarks in that bill. they cover 97 pages. tightly tight script that lists all these earmarks values about $5 billion. now "the washington post" took a close look at one particular congressman and the earmarks that he'd gotten. this is congressman alan boyd, democrat from florida, he got $1.5 million for a study of nongas study of military operations even though they went into full production of a nongas engine. bill: we already got the thing? >> this congressman had a study of the weather in panama city, florida, so he could persuade the national guard not to move the pilot training camp from panama city, this gentleman's home state, to oregon. he had money for the weather to show nat weather was better in florida than oregon. bill: you got to be kidding me? 97 pages long. that seems like a long and boring novel but it's your
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money. stu, who in washington is taking this seriously? anyone? >> well, obviously not. hopefully the voters will. but senator russ fine gold, he objected, he didn't sign on to this defense appropriations bill. he said it's too full of earmarks and there are some in the republican party which also object. but the vas mass of pop tigses are doing business as usual. this is not the change we can believe in. there is no difference from this congress to any other congress. this is how it's done. this is how your money's spent. bill: stu, i like to see your eyes bug out of your head. i want to put this on the screen so you can see our debt. $12 trillion, my friend. >> oh, it's going up. that's going up. i think as we said before by $100 billion every five weeks. bill: 35 years later, welcome, again, to the good old u.s. of a. see you at 1:00, stu.
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uma: crushing cars as fox news goes on the job hunt. the federal cash for clunkers programs was wildly popular. it began in july with more than 678,000 people trading in those gas guzzlers for credit towards buying a new fuel efficient car. it cost the fed about $2.85 billion, but now it may be paying off in jobs. peter doocy is joining us in cicero, new york. creating more jobs from this program? >> yeah, uma. i'm here at a&p auto parts with some snow and cold weather is not enough to shut them down because they've been superbusy because of cash for clunkers. remember over the summer when everybody was talking about cash for clunkers, people big those new cars. what happened to those
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clunkers? 21 ended up at a&p auto parts where they strip the cars for the parts and sell them to you, the consumer and the viewer, for about half the cost of a brand new part. now, i'm here with the owner of a&b, billy able. you got 2,100. is that where you were expecting? >> we were expecting about 400. it turned out to 2,000. >> have you guys been able to keep up with that? it seems like more than you've bargained for? >> we have been running seven days a week and hired a lot of help and hopefully be done with this in the next six months. >> you say your business is up 41%. once the cars have no more parts to be sold, what happened to them? >> once the vehicle's environmentally friendly, there's no hazardous fluids, we run the car into our press that
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we have in the background here and now the car is then sent to a shreder. >> a lot of businesses been crunched in that economy, uma. the only one being crushed is clunkers. uma: there are hardy souls working in this really cold weather making it happen. thank you, peter. for more from our on-the-job hunt series head over to and look for the what's hot tab. you are going to find up-to-the-minute information on all of our on the job hunt reports. bill: still, the biggest story in the country, isn't it, jobs and the economy as we head into the new year. uma: no doubt about it. bill: we have this guy's are secret compartment when smuggling material onboard the plane. how that bomber got the material onboard the plane in only two minutes. new details after this. no other allergy itchy eye drop works faster or longer. zyrtec® itchy eye drops work fast i can love the air™.
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evolution in terrorist tactics. separately fox news is being told that d.n.a. was obtained from the suspect, not only for the case in detroit but also for investigators with the f.b.i. what they will do with that d.n.a. is see if there's other d.n.a. on the device and this will help them confirm if it was in fact a broader conspiracy. uma: you told us about al qaeda putting out a statement claiming responsibility for this foiled attack. >> al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is credible, is authentic, if you will. the main points they're focusing on is they claim the 23-year-old nigerian as one of their own. if we have a full-screen picture of the statement, when you see him standing in front of a flag, that flag is an al qaeda flag. so that's another tie to the
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group. and, thirdly, in the statement they claim that it was their team's within yemen that helped put the materials together. the martyrdom seeker brother reached his goal, with allah's grace, but due to allah's will, malfunction happened which caused only a partial detonation rather than a full one. and we will continue in this path, allah willing, until we reach our goal. the 23-year-old suspect received the bomb-making materials when he was there. uma. uma: what more do we know about that radical cleric in yemen that seems to have ties to this case? >> well, i think this is -- this continues to be the leading edge of the story. the radical cleric is an american citizen. he was born in new mexico and he fled the united states and now operates i wouldn't say freely but does operate within yemen. this is a name that americans became familiar with in the
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fall via the fort hood shooting case. investigators confirmed to fox that the alleged shooter in that case, major nadal hassan, had been speaking guidance from al-awlaki. he had a website and blog. what we confirmed independently is investigators tell us that there is computer traffic that shows that the 23-year-old inside jerryian suspect, abdul mutallab, also was a big follower of al-awlaki. and u.s. official confirmed to me that there is strong evidence that within the last year awlaki has gone from someone being the u.s. community associated with propaganda to someone who's really gone operational. what that means is he's now seen as someone who is trying to -- sometimes i get a brain lock on these things but i'll get past it in a minute. he's someone no longer content to being on the propaganda end
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of things but someone who wants to launch attacks outside the region and specifically in the west. uma: well, catherine, you have so many details to keep track of. >> well, thank you for being so understanding. uma: great reporting as always. >> thank you very much. uma: no problem. the transportation security administration has issued some new rules for international flights inbound fought u.s. all passengers flying into the u.s. can now expect thorough patdowns at the gate concentrating on upper legs and the torso. one hour before landing travelers must remain in nair seats and during there period nothing may be in a passenger's lap, including blankets and pillows. now, these regulations are only in effect through tomorrow. bill: a lot of times they're making the pilots make the final call. remember this scare that came out of great britain about the liquids. we had to change our behavior then and now. in the short term. we'll see how the flying stays safe.
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we were talking about stu varney about the amount of federal money is the chief focus of our next guest. he's tim pawlenty, possible nomination for republican in 2012. he wants a constitutional amendment to have the federal government to knock it off. governor tim pawlenty is live from minneapolis. good morning to you. >> good morning. bill: tell me about your idea. you want the federal government to have a law, constitution hahl amendment that says if you're not taking in x amount of dollars you cannot spend x amount of dollars. go. >> well, we have in minnesota a proposal that says we're going to quit guessing what the revenues will be in the future because they're almost always inaccurate so we'll base our spending projections on what we actually took in the door in the current budget cycle. we will not make obligations on hopes and wishes but wait until we have the money to pay for it. i think it's common sense. i think that's how most families and businesses
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operate. that's what we should do in government. at the federal level i proposed a balanced budget requirement for all the reasons your earlier guest was suggesting. the federal government is running a ponzi scheme. it's a ponzi on the potomac. they can't continue on that current course. if you look at the unfinded liabilities of the federal government it's $65 trillion. they only take $2 trillion in revenues. that number doesn't work. bill: it doesn't seem to me that many people are listening to you. >> well, i think more people are listening now than they were before. you're seeing the public's opinion on this begin to shift. of course, jobs is the most important issue and terrorism. not far down the road is government spending. i had avenue suggest to you this, we can't trust we will send more politicians to washington and they are going to change this. we need a mechanism to enforce it because regardless of which party's been in power they have
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not done a good job over time of getting these budgets to balance. bill: so you have two proposals. one in your home state of minnesota. you have one you're pushing at the federal level. we had an economist on that was talking about a constitutional amendment. he said the federal level will never happen. get are you to respond to that too. but do you think you have a better chance at the local level in minnesota? >> well, minnesota we might. invest a legislature that's controlled by the other party and they don't like my idea of restraining spending. as we continue to have these budget and spending fights in minnesota they may be more open to it because the system we have now is broken in terms of the way we budget and forecast. i'd concede at the federal level it is an uphill climb for a balanced budget but we are headed towards that i think a financial calamity in this country. as more people get more enraged about this and they will be i think this idea may get some more traction. bill: this goes back to the arguments we had in the 1980's that many would argue that economic spending can pull you out of recovery. can it?
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>> i think you can make expectations for it like war, like natural disasters, like declared emergencies and i would go on to say if you need to run a little bit of a deficit for a little while it can't be more than a certain percentage of g.d.p. what we have now is out of control, it's reckless, it's irresponsible. sending more politicians to washington and doing more of the same is not going to work. we need a mechanism like this. bill: well, there are critics back in your home state argue that the cuts you made at the local level they hurt low-income people when it comes to health care benefits. how do you defend yourself you are cutting in certain areas that you shouldn't be cutting? >> in minnesota with the expectation of military -- exception of military and veterans, we cut everything because the government is growing too fast. we are on a pathway of problems. it has to be reined in. when everyone is tightening their belts, families, small businesses, government should do the same. most people in minnesota
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understand that. when the cuts were difficult it needed to be done. bill: you argue then the cuts have been equitable in your state, that's your argument? >> i think they have been equitable in the sense we made profits. we said some things are more important. like our national guard, like public safety. like our k-12 schools. so they're going to be insulated from cuts. everything else is going to be on the table. bill: all right. you've been in new hampshire. you've been to iowa. when do you go back? >> well, i don't have any current plans to go back to iowa or new hampshire. i do have a pact at trying to help my party and republican candidates. i don't have any plans going to iowa and new hampshire. bill: we'll follow your plans. we'll speak again. tim pawlenty, governor of minnesota. good to have you on. >> thanks. uma: a hollywood bad boy back in the headlines again.
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charlie sheen's wife accusing him of holding her hostage at knifepoint threatening to kill her. julie banderas is joining us in new york. some pretty serious allegations from his wife, julie. anything that might set sheen off? >> the attack happened after his wife, brooke, asked him for a divorce. she said, and i'm quoting here, "you better be in fear. if you tell anyone i'll kill you. i have ex-police that i can hire who know how to get the job done and won't leave a trace." here's the 911 call.
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>> brooke also told the operator that i "thought i was going to die for one hour." and to get him off of her she told her, you're right, you're right. i'm sorry. i love her. she had red marks on the upper part of the front of her neck. uma. uma: this is really explosive pape, explos die recording. my goodness. any comment right now from charlie sheen? >> well, tt though a spokespers there is a comment. the 44-year-old act hor denies tt theatening his wife with a knife. he said he's very embarrassed about the incident and that the two were going to go to marriage counseling although no confirmation from brooke that counseling is in the cards for these two. she reportedly told police that he and mueller have been having marital problems saying that she abuses alcohol. he also told police that he and
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his wife began arguing at 3:00 a.m. christmas morning after she had become jealous over a daughter he fathered with another woman. she has two children with him and he has two daughters with ex-wife denise richards. and sort of a messy domestic dispute, if you will. uma: oh, absolutely. vess disturbing indeed. all right, julie, thank you. >> sure things. bill: kids can become weapons in these things. uma: hopefully not. bill: they were stranded in their car for three nights. they said they were stranded there becealse the g.p.s. led them down the wrong road. can you trust the voice in your dash board? what you must know about that navigator in your ca her
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the n: hi. it. along with jane skinner, we'll see you -- two of the guys who lead the group trying to blow up that northwest airlines jet, they spent time at guantanamo bay's prison. how did they get out and does therer claim complicate efforts to close that prison? we'll ask some efforts. n:ne: police there in texas looking for a texas prison gup rd a acused of kill his wif and mother-in-law. we'll tell you where that investigation stands, coming up next. uma: well, you know many of us
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use gstrece. der hces but can y trust everything it tells you? well, one couple did and it wooked on t getting them st. in a forest for three freezing unold nights. luckily they're ok. but how much fate should we really put in this technology? .oining us now editor joins us more with this. ok. lots of folks have these and i'm not alone in this that o afen we find ourselves having to see whether or not our g.p.s. device is actually leading us down the best path and if it's accurate. how do we know we're getting accurate information? >> well, the challenge that these people faced actually was that, they followed the directions reseesly that the lstrece. told them and led them doled the wrong path. a very snowy road. the car was mired in deep snow. because of the trees, the mountains, they were unable to get a signal out. what happened here is a pro and a con to the g.p.s.
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the pro is it tells us where we need to go. the other thing is it can relay a sigees,l back to 9the 9 which help people locate you if you're lost. information to get that back. uma: should it be a good backup plan for people to have a map actually and to make sure for therer own cell phones are charged to the point if they're going to go on a long distance somewhere and ns pr familiar wis the route that they have this just in case they get in a situp tion like this? >> i think that's just it. you hit the nail on the head. if you're unclear where you're going to be in, if it's a new enr hronment for you should com prepared, take a look at the map beforehanurb these people turned onto a snowy side road and that was their dowand iall. if they knew to stay on a major road and those are the major rtruenis and maybe we shouldn't take these turnoff they would
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have been safe. they had food and blankets in the car. they didn't have that map. uma: that really was a real problem for them. but talk to me for a moment in terms of the tecbut olow my wke finding with the g.p.s. out there on the market? what's bereng done to make them really reliable and -- devices we can really count on? >> yeah. it its very interesting. we think g.p.s. is that thing on the dash btrurd. it its the satellites in the sk it's a very complicated technolomuc eson?ctly. the air force are the ones in charge of the gstrece. sr, tent a few years ago they u lraded it to make it more precise which means that the units can more a acurately low indicate u which is very handy and that the chips are better in them. some more accurate than others. it's ns pr just any one type of tecbut olow my. there are a lot of different nuances to it. aerentery interesting aspect is those satellites are getting
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old at this point. some 20 yeatec old. and the systems at risk of failing if the air force doesn't get on it and start replacing some of knows old satellites soon. uma: so folks out there looking to these devices as a fail proof method should use common sense and to take measures to prepare. >> you should have a bacif p plan in case your technology doesn't do it for you. iskma: thay re you for that we appreciate it. bill: some folks can't be without it. me, i'll never stop and ask for directions. iskma: yong bill: let its go. the latest on the investigation of this 23-year-old nigerian. the n has that at the top of t hour. was he trained in yemen, and if so, by whom? that's coming up in minutes. ers
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bill: images out of phoenix, arizona. check out what i got for christmas. a motorcycle. this man is going away from police. this guy on the motorcycle is going 140 miles an hour. he has slowed down considerably now. get this clear. police were trailing him. he was fleeing from ulcers and led them to a pursued on sky harbor, phoenix. police will be there in a minute. i'm not sure about that red car. maybe that is investigators on the scene. apparently there is no urgency, unless he knows this guy.
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this guy led police to the sky harbor airport, was traveling up to 140 miles an hour. so much for that. from phoenix, we will try to get to the bottom of it in minutes here. uma: mixed martial arts fighting is full, but fighting combining several martial arts. it is becoming one of the top sports in the u.s., and legendary athletes are now getting into the act. we are joined from san jose, calif., with more of these. >> jim's here are training the next big fighters. this place will be packed with
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mma wannabes kicking and punching each other. this is the headquarters for the champion promotion league strike force. there are dozens of leads, but strike force is a real contender, started in 1994, and just exploded over the past year with big-name sponsors, superstars, and network deals also giving up and coming fighters national exposures. >> give us some names. >> a jose canseco brought in before he was knocked out. herschel walker, a heisman winner, a star running back with the nfl. olympic of sweater, -- bobsledders, as well. he is now in training to make his debut in miami next month. take a listen.
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no question, he is in great physical condition, with a fifth degree black belt in tai kwan day. but at 50, many consider this a publicity stunt. walker says he is here for real and plans to donate earnings to charity. in fact, he will be here at the gym for the workout regimen in a couple of hours. by the way, another star athlete talking about trying his hand at mixed commercial -- martial arts is shaquille o'neal after she retires -- he retires from basketball.
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